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Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:35:28 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #740 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Mon, 4 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 740 Today's Topics: ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** July ** Update Amps - Pounds relationship Contest Question FIELD DAY 1994 REPORT (2 msgs) Gordon West Books & Tapes Humorous Field Day Stories? IARU Contest RULES !!??? Let's be Careful Out There! WARNING: Potential Satellite Anomaly Warning - 04Jul Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". 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So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 4 Jul 1994 03:57:50 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!w1gsl@network.ucsd.edu Subject: ** New England Ham - Electronic Fleamarket Dates ** July ** Update To: info-hams@ucsd.edu New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 1994 P 1 of 2 All events are Ham Radio/ Electronic related except ~_____~ ******************************************************************************* 1994 Contact Source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 16 July Union ME @ Fairground Skeet KA1LPW 207 622 2915 F 17 July Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 23 July Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 24 July Queens NY @HallofScience 47-01 111st $5@9 Arnie WB2YXB 718 343 0172 F+ 7 Aug Wellesley MA WARS @Babson Trim Hall $2@9 Barbara N1ICQ 617 329 2628 F 13 Aug Charlotte VT @Old Lantern CG 8A- $5 su 3P Fri Dave N1ERD 802 893 7660 F 13 Aug St Albans ME @ Snow Mobile Club Rod KA1RFD 207 582 6125 21 Aug Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 27 Aug Gardner MA MARC @Drive-in $5@6 $2@8 Bill WJ1Y 508 939 2643 F 28 Aug Fall River MA BCRA @Bank St Ar $2@9 $5/15@8 Tom WA1LBK 508 674 4163 T 28 Aug Yonkers NY YARC John 914 969 6548 A 28 Aug Vernon CT East VHF-UHF Conf FLEA $5@8 @Qual Inn Ron WZ1V 203-589-0528 10 Sept Windsor ME AARA @Fairground Rod KA1RFD 207 582 6125 10 Sept Ballston Spa NY SCRACES 7A $4-5 Ti147.84/.24 Dave N2FEP 518 882 6196 F 11 Sept Pittsfield MA NoBARC @Taconic HS Chuck NZ1Z 413 447 8377 + 11 Sept S Dartmouth MA SE Mass ARA $2@8 $10/T Peter KA1WOJ 508 993 6262 + 17 Sept Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW rt146 8A flea+auct Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507 17 Sept Berlin VT CVTARC ti 146.625- Steve N1NPI 802 433 6172 F 18 Sept Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 18 Sept Sandy Hook CT Candlewood ARA @Town bldg 8A Ken KD1DD 203 743 9181 D 21-24 Sept Rochester NY Antique WA Conf Joyce 607 739 5443 24 Sept Lincoln ME Bagley ARC @Burr Sc 2miN on Rt2 Ed WA1JGO 207 732 5185 25 Sept Framingham MA @ HS $14@8 $10tg $5@9 $2@10 Lew K1AZE 508 879 7456 F+ 25 Sept Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS $5@9 $25/T@7 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 F+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 6-10-94 de W1GSL P 1 of 2 ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@mit.edu SASE for updated copy. TCPIP w1gsl@gw.w1mx.ampr.org AX.25 w1gsl@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa (c)1994 W1GSL US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 P 2 of 2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1994 Contact Source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1,2 Oct Boxboro MA NE Div Conv. Gene W1VRK 617 631 7388 A 2 Oct Queens NY @Hall of Science 47-01 111st Arnie WB2YXB 718 343 0172 7,8 Oct Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG x13 rt16 $20@9A $5@3PM fri Joe K1RQG 8,9 Oct Durham CT Nutmeg @FG Opens 4PM sat $5-25 Jim N1IZF 203 349 3353 F 16 Oct Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F buy $2@9A sellers $10/sp@7A $8in adv $35/sp "Season Pass" 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 22,23 Oct Waltham MA Photographica 10-5 $5 ~photo~ (bef 9PM) 617 965 0807 T 29 Oct Nashua NH NE Antique RC $5@9 $1@10 @ Res Ctr Church Ray 508 865 1290 30 Oct Poughkeepsie NY Mt B ARC @Arl HS s@6 b@8 Ken KL7JCQ 914 485 9617 + 12 Nov Plymouth MA Mayflower RC @Mem Hall 9-3 sell@8 Jon WS1K 508 746-0162 13 Nov Branford CT SCARA @intrm sch Brad WA1TAS 203 265 9983 T ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1995 Contact Source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 15 Jan Yonkers NY @Lincoln HS $5@9 $25/T@7 Otto WB2SLQ 914 969 1053 F+ 2 April Trenton NJ DVRA @Tren ST Col. W2ZQ 609 882 2240 D 16 April Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 28-30 April Dayton OH F 12.13 May Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG x13 rt16 $20@9A $5@3PM fri Joe K1RQG 20 May Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW rt146 8A flea+auct Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507 + 21 May Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 31 May-2 June Boston MA ELECTRO @ Hynes "Electronics trade show"800 223 7126 F 18 June Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 16 July Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 20 Aug Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 6-10-94 de W1GSL P 2 of 2 Source F= Flyer T= tentative early info + = new info this month A= ARRL J= John Roberts D= W1DL WR NV 73 CQ QST = Mags This list has been compiled from many sources. While we believe the info to be accurate the author can not be responsible for changes or errors. Check with the sponsoring organizations for more details. This list will be posted monthly to USENET. Mailed copies are sent when additions are made. ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@mit.edu SASE for updated copy. TCPIP w1gsl@gw.w1mx.ampr.org AX.25 w1gsl@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa (c)1994 W1GSL US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 New England Area Ham - Electronic Flea Market *** DATES *** 1995 *** Page 3 Electronic distribution only. This page has the overflow if any P3 from the paper version. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1995 Contact Source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 16 Sept Forestdale RI RIFMRS @VFW rt146 8A flea+auct Rick K1KYI 401 725 7507 + 17 Sept Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F 3rd Sunday Each Month April thru October 6,7 Oct Rochester NH Hoss Traders @FG x13 rt16 $20@9A $5@3PM fri Joe K1RQG 15 October Cambridge MA FLEA at MIT Nick 617 253 3776 F ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LAST UPDATE 6-10-94 de W1GSL P 3 ******************************************************************************* Additions/ Corrections via Internet w1gsl@mit.edu (c)1994 W1GSL TCPIP w1gsl@gw.w1mx.ampr.org unlimited reproduction AX.25 w1gsl@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa permited in entirity US Mail W1GSL POB 82 MIT Br Cambridge MA 02139 SASE for updated copy as issued. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 04:01:53 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!milcom@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Amps - Pounds relationship To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Michael White (mwhite@mitre.org) wrote: : Weight(in lbs) = (.832 * Current(in amps)) + 3.52 That may be accurate for linear supplies such as astrons with large input transformers & heatsinks. But what about switching supplies. The supply in your computer is most likely 200w and may weigh just a pound. I've seen 4kw switching supplies that weigh about as much as an astron 20A, 4kw is about 290A at 14v or so. But of course you'll pay $2500. -- POP: Persistant Online Procrastination milcom@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 1994 22:42:19 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!curly.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Contest Question To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <01HE2O6I8QK28WW23Y@vega.selu.edu>, Robert G. Priez <FMUS1184@VEGA.SELU.EDU> wrote: >nice guy!) I rack up the contacts and have a great time .... using MY >callsign, not his. Question: should HIS call, not MINE be used; should the >call be MINE/HIS or HIS/MINE; or does it really matter? (Afterall, when the >contest scores are published in QST is it the OPERATOR or STATION that gets the >recognition?) > Is this a question of propriety or legality? Nope. As far as what is proper, that is defined by wahtever you and agree on before the contest. And as for the legal issues, there are no relavent ones within the US -- some countries have certain requirements that could preempt such operations, but the US is not one of them. YMMV elsewhere. --Trey, WN4KKN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jul 1994 15:19:07 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu Subject: FIELD DAY 1994 REPORT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Jul1.225902.16224@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, Mark Monninger (rapw20@email.sps.mot.com) writes: >We ran 6A without too many problems. We had 3 SSB stations running into G5RV's >and 3 CW stations running into verticals. We worked a 12A somewhere. I can't >imagine coordinating 12 stations. Then again, it seems I remember a 16A last >year but that might have been an early morning hallucination. > We also ran 6A, and I do remember contacting a 16A on 40m -- think they were from one of the New England states -- Mass. maybe, or VT. We also ran into a 15A. 73...joe ---------- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961 ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jul 1994 05:19:39 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@network.ucsd.edu Subject: FIELD DAY 1994 REPORT To: info-hams@ucsd.edu jsalemi@doghouse.win.net (Joe Salemi) writes: > >In article <1994Jul1.225902.16224@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, Mark Monninger (rapw20@email.sps.mot.com) writes: >>We ran 6A without too many problems. We had 3 SSB stations running into G5RV's >>and 3 CW stations running into verticals. We worked a 12A somewhere. I can't >>imagine coordinating 12 stations. Then again, it seems I remember a 16A last >>year but that might have been an early morning hallucination. >> >We also ran 6A, and I do remember contacting a 16A on 40m -- think they >were from one of the New England states -- Mass. maybe, or VT. We >also ran into a 15A. I hit a 14A on 40-m SSB, I believe. Heh, I was a bit shocked when I QSL'd it. I can't imagine being on a site with 40 rigs in what sort of radius of one another? We were advertising ourselves as 2A, but I think we were actually 4A, as one guy also had a CW station he set up late and we actually made a few QSO's on the 2-m packet station we had to demonstrate to the public. But then, it didn't really matter, as we weren't in it for the points. I don't think our point-total topped 2500 or so. >---------- >Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net >Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961 -- --- Doug Renze, N0YVW * drenze@isca.uiowa.edu * N0YVW @ W0IUQ.ia.usa.na DRenze@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 04:54:15 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!shopson@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Gordon West Books & Tapes To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I purchased the Gordon West "No-Code Plus" Novice and Technician Class Theory study guide about a week ago. After about a week of study I'm ready to take the test which I will take this next week- end 7/8 or 7/9. I was familiar with much of the concepts already so this is why I was able to breeze through the book. I also purchased the Gordon West Code Builder tapes which have been extremely helpful. I am planning to take the code test when I take the Technician test. I just want to say thanks for the reccomendations and give my own reccomendation for the materials suggested to me. If you want to get your license then this is the fastest way short of taking a class. Now I just hope the FCC doesn't make me wait forever to get the ticket in the mail. PS: I met Gordon West today, he lives about two miles from me in Costa Mesa. He is a really nice guy with two impressives radio shacks. You can find him on 144.330 mhz (simplex), 28.303 mhz most mornings, and 50.120 mhz when the band is open. See you on the air.... -- o_/ _/| ___/_\__ ' Cowabunga, dude...... shopson@netcom.com Scott Hopson Costa Mesa, Ca. ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jul 1994 05:15:46 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!icaen!drenze@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Humorous Field Day Stories? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I'm looking for humorous stories any of *you* may have about Field Day, past or present. For example, this year for FD we were running a 10-meter rig on Sunday at about 90W out with a beam at 40 feet. This was a good setup--we were making contacts all over the country (who says 10-meters is dead? Seems to be open every time I hit it). Well, about 1730Z Sunday (a half-hour or so before the end of the contest), we started milking thes very *very* weak signal on 10m SSB. [them] "Please send suffix and section, repeat suffix and section. Go ahead." [us] "Roger roger. JV JV JV Juliet Victor Jumping Virgins. Section Iowa, India-Alpha, Iowa City, Iowa, QSL? Go ahead." [them] "QSL, Juliet-Victor, Iowa City, Iowa. Kilo-Bravo-Zero-Kilo- Oscar-Kilo, 5 Alpha Iowa, India-Alpha, Davenport, Iowa, QSL?" Heh...one of the more memorable contacts. If you look at the Iowa map, you'll see that Iowa City and Davenport are about 40 miles away as the crow flies... One of those things to laugh about and tell the novices about in 25 years, I guess. "Why, for my first Field Day it took 90 watts through a beam at 40 feet to make a contact 45 miles away. You youngsters don't know how good you've got it..." Anybody else got any humorous Field Day tales? -- --- Doug Renze, N0YVW * drenze@isca.uiowa.edu * N0YVW @ W0IUQ.ia.usa.na DRenze@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 1994 22:48:24 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!curly.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: IARU Contest RULES !!??? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <Cs5vrx.BF9@news.ci.ua.pt>, Jose Miguel Fonte <etjfonte@ci.ua.pt> wrote: > Hello . > I'm planning to participate in this year IARU championship but I don't have the complete rules...I already have a software for IARU's CT. but I don't understand the main rules...I think there are 90 zones??!! Wich one is portugal? >what do we have to exchange in the QSO? the bands , class of operation??? >where do we send the log's ... > PSE answer... > here or via email... You can get more information about this and other contests sponsored by the ARRL by sending email to contests@arrl.org, or by mailing a letter to the Contest Branch, ARRL, 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111. --Trey, WN4KKN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 04:35:05 GMT From: iglou!gregl.slip.iglou.com!ke4dpx@uunet.uu.net Subject: Let's be Careful Out There! To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <9405297729.AA772945530@smtpgty.anatcp.rockwell.com> William_A._Kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.COM (William A. Kirsanoff) writes: >Let's be Careful out there! >I heard something this afternoon that made me decide to >post a little reminder to everyone who monitors a public >safety frequency with their amateur radio: >Here in Orange County, CA, all police and sheriffs units >monitor a county wide "red" frequency. Red is a popular >frequency for hams and scanner buffs to listen in on, >that's where the action was during the infamous "O.J. >Simpson parad...uh pursuit. >Today, while driving, I heard someone on the red >channel's output frequency pounding DTMF tones. It did >not seem that they were trying to jam, it sounded very >much like someone trying to control a repeater. The >person pounded out a 5 digit code, waited, tried again, >waited, tried another code . . . After a longer wait, >they were back again, clearly seeming to be carefully >trying to send a control sequence and not understanding >why it didn't work. Since this was on the output only, it >seems the control operator was not aware of the >situation, they normally say something like "Unit on >red?" when someone starts keying their system. That >usually wakes up the person doing it. :-) Eventually, a >patrol sergeant decided to ask for a radio check on red. >That seems to have awakened them, the tones stopped. >Now the reminder: Be careful when using a transmit >capable radio to monitor public safety frequencies! If >your radio supports it, program an odd split so that if >you do inadvertently transmit, it will be in the ham >bands. This person was clearly not paying attention to >what they were doing, but accidents do happen. This type >of accident could land you a fine and license suspension. >If someone is injured because you were messing around on >the police band, the little mistake becomes a felony! No >kidding! >I feel better now, thank's for reading. :-) Soapbox Alert. . . Granted, I haven't been a licensed amateur for a long time (just shy of a year by a few days). However, I have always been puzzled why amateur radios invariable come out of the box capable of transmitting outside of the amateur bands. Well, I can somewhat understand continuous tuning HF gear -- at least to some degree. What I really don't understand is 2 meter mobile gear, out of the box, that transmit from 140 to 150 MHz (sometimes much wider). Receiving is no problem. But transmitting? For one it is illegal to transmit outside of the amateur band (with the exception of MARS and possibly another). I purchased a Yaseu FT-2400 mobile rig (an excellent radio in all respects but one) that is advertised as: Rx 140-174, Tx 144-148. Not only is it wrong, it is somewhat deceitful because the radio transmits out of the box from 140 to 150 MHz. I called Yaseu and the person answering the phone was just as puzzled as I was. She says the specifications are 144-148 and there must have been a goof. The technician I was transferred to said the specifications were changed in the advertising but the radios themselves were not. I guess the big boys aren't worried about it because it's not their license they are risking. Quite frankly, I don't see why anyone wants a radio that transmits outside of the amateur band (with the exception of MARS) anyway. That is, unless you're a lid that like wreaking havoc. Soapbox Off ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 23:13:39 MDT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!psgrain!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu Subject: WARNING: Potential Satellite Anomaly Warning - 04Jul To: info-hams@ucsd.edu /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ POTENTIAL SATELLITE ANOMALY WARNING ISSUED: 04:30 UT, 04 JULY /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ATTENTION: The recurrent trend of enhanced electrons at greater than 2 MeV have made themselves manifest again, in close keeping with established trends. Electron fluence on 03 July was at high levels. Periods of high to very high electrons at greater than 2 MeV may be observed over approximately the next two weeks. During this period, geosynchronous satellites may become susceptible to charging-related anomalies. ** End of Warning ** ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 1994 22:59:11 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!curly.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Jun30.162157.1@woods.uml.edu>, <2v140a$otr@news.iastate.edu>, <FAUNT.94Jul1181923@netcom4.netcom.com> Subject : Re: CW - THE ONLY MODE! In article <FAUNT.94Jul1181923@netcom4.netcom.com>, Doug Faunt N6TQS 510-655-8604 <faunt@netcom4.netcom.com> wrote: >I've been considering trying to learn to use a paddle left-handed, so >that I can keep a pencil in my right. Any opinions on this? >I haven't learned to use a paddle yet. I'm still working on copying >13wpm. This can be a very useful skill and a lot of great CW men have mastered it. Convention dictates that the dots are sent with the thumb and the dashes are sent with the finger. Therefore the keyer paddle will be configured differently whether you are sending left-handed or right- handed. Although you can wire the paddle however you want, following the convention can make life easier if you ever are in a sutuation where you want to use someone else's gear. Another useful side-effect is that if you learn to send with either hand and follow the covention, then you will be able to use an arbitrary keyer paddle no matter how it is wired. --Trey, WN4KKN ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Jul 1994 22:21:00 EST From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!wariat.org!amcomp!dan@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <FAUNT.94Jul1181923@netcom4.netcom.com>, <CsALB5.G2n@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, <1994Jul3.112725.1@woods.uml.edu>i.oar Subject : Re: CW - THE ONLY MODE! martinja@woods.uml.edu (JJ Martin) writes: >I think Luck Hurder, KY1T, is on to something in his post in the policy news- >group where he speaks of the pencil and paper trap. > >Probably 80 percent of the time I am copying code I have a pencil in hand and >am either taking notes or writing verbatum. However, when I run mobile cw I >have to depend completely on the gray matter entrapped within my skull. Yeah, >it's still there, had an MRI in '90 that proves it. > >Wonder what others think here...wouldn't it be best to learn code by head copy >and not paper & pencil copy? I know Luck alluded to using a computer and >your favorite word processor, but then you would have to know how to type also. >The COVOX idea seems sound enough though. But looking back, I wish I had been >taught to copy without the aid of any external memory storage devices, other >than for maybe jotting down notes for the sake of QSO continuity or something >like that. Those of us who learned code the "old fashioned way" pencil & paper >took a lot of hits when we'd miss a character. Later we learned how to just >press on past those missed characters. I wonder how much less time would have >been involved in getting the speed up to say 25 wpm or so if we had not gone >that route? > >It doesn't help that at test sessions we hand out paper and pencil and kinda >force folks to copy that way. If they fail to attain a 70 percentile in >answering the questions they may obtain credit for one minute of consecutive >copy. What an incentive to copy with paper & pencil....and to copy verbatum. > >Let's here from some of the cw experts out there. What are your ideas on this? >You too Luck. I'm interested. Maybe we can compile some how to's to help >those in the next code class. I'm quite familiar with the way *I* did it but >would like input into how other did or would do it now. Jim, I have asked several times for that information to pass along to the people that listen to my 2-Meter practice. I got several responses but lost most to a disk problem. I too would be interested in any 'hints and tips' that I could pass along. Dan -- "Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH!" -Patrick Henry, Virginia House of Burgesses on March 23,1775 =+=+=> Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun! - Me ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #740 ******************************